This week, Mattias Klum joins former Swedish Minister Ardalan Shekarabi in the podcast “Ardalan träffar.” In a personal and reflective conversation, Mattias shares stories from his journey — including his decision to step away from an academic path in favor of a creative life shaped by nature, storytelling, and purpose.

The episode explores how his deep connection to the natural world took root, as well as how he has dealt with performance pressure and stress throughout his professional life.

You can listen to the episode on Spotify, Apple Podcasts Poddtoppen and more.